I don't need this, or you for that matter.

It's just you

If that's the case, that everyone wants to be the winner, then there are some very disillusioned people.  Wow again.

Were you drinking when you read my post?  You didn't get it at all.  No wonder you're not winning.

Gentle readers,

While I am, of course, one person, the two songs I submitted were performed at different times with different bands...Drowning Bliss and ModiFY. These are my first two songs I have posted. I didn't realize "winning" here would become an issue. I was not trying to by sly. Please let me know what the unwritten rules are for submitting songs to this site are, assuming that they differ from what is on the FAQ page.

Mod

Mod-
Enjoyed both tunes, and you're a talented fellow, if the posts last week were any indication. I don't think Jack was throwing you, your songs, or your performances under the bus, although I don't know him. It seems to me that all Jack and I are pointing out is that we've been here a while, the site has deteriorated from an administrative standpoint, and we're disappointed. No reflection on you or your music. Good job and congratulations. Welcome to the Weekly Winner and Runner up club.

Johnny-you're just incoherent man. If Jack didn't understand you, he's not alone. You seem awfully bitter about something. I haven't posted anything in over a month, so I wasn't disappointed I didn't win. I didn't "Buy a ticket."
CA

My time here may be limited.

Already we can witness the influence of insecurity measures as the ratings of "the River" by Jack will show. The flame ratings are approching 200!!!!!!!!!Have a look for yourself! In 2hours:47 minutes no less.

The flame meter police surely must know I am but a man. Please be merciful as I can in no wise surrender to the punishment that a soul must endure to get the ratings so consistantly low. I cannot utter the great words of Richard Starky, "I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS!"

Sand moves close to fill the end.

This will be my fortress area as I prepare for battle. I forsaw a sexual harrasment be thy suit laid at the feet of the pseudonym "Jack O'Brien" and laid waste the identity thief were he stood. Had I not, no security was available for the protection of an innocent man(AW knows to which I refer).

It is time for my demands to be laid out:
You will protect me and mine from these acts of theft.
You will install these measures immediately.

You will adhere to the same TOS that each one here must agree to. If you cannot do this you will MODIFY the TOS to be beneficial to both parties.


http://www.artistweekly.com/terms.jsp


And now, if you see me no more, I have been slain. Worry not for my soul, but be thy prepared. And know who it is that handles your fate.


Jack O'Brien
unabletoaccess.getadotlife.com

it's also about social suicide!!

Could it be jack that you are now infamous?  Wonder now why no one knows who I am?  My coffee anon-imity has protected my work from retaliation.  As I've noted all along, most of these folks are all about free expression and beauty and love and harmony and all that other rot, until you dissagree with them.  Then they go into attack mode. 

And it's not even their music that you need be critical of to inflame their ire.  Just be critical of anything, and you become the focus of their criticism.  In their world criticism begets criticism.  You can't be critical of others and peacefully coexist. 

I think it fair to say at this point that you could post the greatest song ever written here and someone would vote it down again and again.  So maybe I lose the argument over anonimity in the long run.  Maybe this site needs to set cookies and limit votes like SR.

Naah.

Just post under a different name like Jeff Miller Jeff Elliot Miller Steve Miller Steve Austin Austin Powers Elliot Yamin, SM or Whatever JEM's name is this week.  Just leave "Jack" and "O'brien" out of it. 

CA

 

Coffee - give me a break - I can clearly see that the spam is taking over.

We're just going to have to require logins to post on the forums.  Since it is a different system than the AW site itself, it will require everyone to create another account.  Yes, that's right - we are unable to implement the forums as part of our site right now, or connect the user databases to make it a seamless connection between the two.  That's one of the reasons (as well as the opportunity to be anonymous) that we set it up this way.

Now it is clear both on this forum with the anonymous drivel and cialis xxx spam that people with no soul have decided to ruin it.  So there we have it - you'll have to sign up, and that's that.

I suppose we'll have to do the same thing over at AW, since people obviously cannot handle anonymity with any sense of responsibility.

I'm sure it will make some people happy, and I'm sure it will make some people angry, but that's life, and that's what we're going to do.

Coffee Anon wrote:

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I think it fair to say at this point that you could post the greatest song ever written here and someone would vote it down again and again. 
CA
 

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Funny you should bring that up. I listened to Delbert McClintons latest last night "Cost of Living", and wondered how it would have stood up under this crowd:) Starting about the 4th tune he would have been ripped up, "too repeatative, GAWD you call that guitar playing?, therefore I can only give you 2 out of three flames, I would have given you 2.5, well, let's just call it a 2.5..."


Anyway....didn't I mention that my real name is NOT Jack O'Brien? I'm so sorry CA, I figured you knew that I knew that the collective did not need to know who we were...or are.

Some of these puppies exert a lot of energy and time stalking someone that is a fig newton of my imagination. So you have to forgive me when I laugh:)




OK. Dear PU
"...but how come every time you upload a song you post an excuse.."

Is that capitol PU or just a little pu? Oh well.

See the difference between an alcoholic and a functioning alcoholic is an F.A. can write AND read. You are giving all the classic signs of a self-medicated dumb ass who, not only refuses to read and locate the gentle thrust of the script, but who also cannot tolerate the idea that you have no talent, you never did, you never will, you dress poorly and ...you suck as a musician.

Being that as it may, I try to be fair, even when I am being stalked, as is often the case here, and you fit the criteria.

I don't do ANYTHING every time.

What you have yet to distill is that I am making a statement. Pretty much the same statement that Mr. CA has been voicing his opinion about. He chooses a less irratating form and most likely gets better results with less expended energy. I, on the other hand, pull a full on assault, taxing my system until I can barely move my head, using every weapon available that I can locate and just generally causing smoke to come out of the rearends of little people like you.

The end result is still the goal...to be rid of the porn, freaks like me, dumb clucks like you, a more attentive staff, a clear line of direction, a forseeable future that would make us each proud of our associations together.

I remain, yours in anonymity,

Jack O'Brien

People like Jack Ass aren't even here for the music.  It's as plain as the large pimple on his crooked shoulders, he not only wants attention, he CRAVES it, NEEDS it and can't live without it.  It's the LOOK AT ME syndrome that's always displayed by know-it-alls like him.  Have you EVER seen Whacko Jacko write something decent without prefacing or ending it with the slash of his pathetic rubber knife?  Nope, never.  Have you ever seen ANYONE who makes as many excuses as him about EVERYTHING he does?  Nope, never.  It must be a very sad existence.  We should all feel sorry for a poor lonesome bloke like that, but we don't.  He doesn't even deserve that.  By the way, his real name is John O'Brian.  He just uses Jack because it goes better with ass.

Hi Steve-
As one of the few people actually taking the time to offer any feedback at all in the Country/Bluegrass genre, I take particular offense to your comments regarding my offensive comments. I took a moment to listen, and I took a moment to give my response.

The song was marginal, I had no constructive feedback to offer other than it seemed unlikely that folks would intentionally ignore the songs on either side of it, and therefore it appeared that the rating was either being pumped or dumped. (ask Jack about rating dumping, works both ways) It was 1978 country disco, I don’t care what anyone says Stella in her red dress on Saturday night is just about as cliché as you can get in country music (or rock, or soul, you get the drift). Do I need to elaborate on that point? What constructivism could I add there? I'm not competing with it either; I’ve got nothing out there currently. Just from the point of view of total objectivity, it "seems unlikely" doesn't it? But I didn't say, "It sucked." So what's the problem? I’ll point out that Donna, one of the other mentions this week got a grand total of twelve listens to her song. TWELVE. Two of those were me. She got two comments, one was this bit of helpful humanistic drivel (I’m attributing it to you or RR who is generally sentimental and caring):

Song critiques aside for a moment, you are definitely one person who is using music in One of the best ways possible and I applaud you for that. Among other reasons I'm sure, I can see that you use it for comfort, to question, as an emotional release and best of all, as a good friend. Also, I have seen your songs bashed mercilessly and still you keep coming back. This shows a depth of character that many could learn from here. I know this comment is a little unusual and maybe even a little sappy, but I wanted to say it. Despite the fact that you do not have great recording equipment for the time being, your emotion and sense of connection with your songs is coming through loud and clear. Despite the fact that your songs may not get great reviews, you own them, wear them, in a very special way. This is using music in its most powerful form. Congratulations.

Is the whole thing just a lazy-susan of mentioning everyone once in a while (as I was previously mentioned and so were you just to keep us coming back? Are you listening to this stuff Steve?

Also you mention my “Style:” as though I have only one mode of commenting on songs. Wrong again Steve. Here’s some drivel of my own:

Nice vocal considering the recording circumstances. I'm wondering now what you could do with a producer (and a compressor.) I didn't necessarily follow the song, but I tried. Getting better Donna, sang like yourself for a change which was a big improvement. Just be yourself. CA

Or maybe this one isn’t constructive enough for you:

OK Donna-Here we go. No reason for this song to be this darn slow. I have a decent attention span, but you're losing me between lines. Pick up the pace, back up from the mic. "Stone made bed" is not something the average person would say, maybe a bed made of stone, but not a stone made bed. I have a wooden bed, not wood made bed, for example. So the hook is weak, and that also hurts the song. I like hymns and Christian music, by the way, so the sentiment expressed is not missed. Just trying to be helpful. CA two flames.

Or this:
This sounds like it might be a classic even in your collection. It's pretty, I'm guessing you wrote this a long time ago and even though the sweet sentiment could carry through to today, it sounds old, if that makes sense. I think people are too harsh now to appreciate it. this coming from me! Three flames- hey update it if you're up to it, i think it would sound great redone in a little more contemporary approach. Coffee Anon

I don’t see any sarcasm there. I was totally honest. Lots of Donna’s stuff Is very hard to listen to I’m convinced my speakers are being damaged every time. But I’m listening!

Look man, these ratings things don't happen on their own. It’s time consuming, and frankly I get at bit frustrated at ratings massaging. I’m vested here based on the amount of time I log with it and it bugs me when people pleasure themselves in public.

In my world it's OK to point out the inconsistencies as I see them. You're the featured artist though, and have been for what, eight weeks? 12 weeks? (WM knows I’m not that good at math) So what do I know? I defer to your featured-ness. (That’s me pointing out an inconsistency again, by the way)

820/BC/WM/BM/NBA/NFL/Jackie O/Anon/MSNBC/lmfao/Cialisguy/spam/BRB/XYZ-PDQ----I concede, finally, that logins are required to keep it real. Steve has a point-it shouldn't be up to me to do that. I accept the brow beating I deserved for saying so in the wrong place, on a song rating page, where I should have just kept my mouth shut like he so many other people, or just said the song sucked like 820 does (just kidding 820). If an artist wants to massage his or her ratings in the current format, I guess I’ll just have to pretend I don’t notice and flame them a bunch of anonymous 1’s with comments like “WOW! five flames” and “Great Job, five flaming flames” until you get it fixed.

And I’ll sign them all Steve Hanlon. Oh, wait, nobody would buy that, he doesn’t own up to his comments.

So Steve, what’s your point? You can attack me because I say what I think and then give an avenue for reproach? Get over yourself.

CA

Anonon wrote:

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...I couldn't count the number of times he has rambled on about signing names as opposed to anonymity, proudly spitting out that HE always signs his name, HE is not one of those who uses anonymity, then he tells us Jack is not his real name!  

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I bet you >can< count the number of times...Zero. What is funny is that my name isn't Jack, John, Jacko, Anon, AA...et. al....but still you chase me around like you will win a prize if ever the illusive target is caught.

Talk about a freak!

I get pissy about some dumbass tune....but I don't chase mo-fos around the damn playground:)

You are sick my friend...S.I.C.K...sick.