... in commenting on my song from a couple of months ago called Finish What You started (and I quote):
I saw on "another site" where you said I "must hate women or something." Look lady, with all due respect I LOVE women. That's why I politely asked my wife to leave the room while your song was playing. To PROTECCT HER FROM IT. Just because your song is badly done (the idea has some promise, but you've not fulfilled it yet) doesn't mean I'm a sociopath. Your song is just bad as is. Stop pointing fingers and fix the thing. PS-hire a vocalist. Wanna get even? Listen, and write HONEST reviews.
I haven't been to this site for a long time, over a month, so seeing this, I am immediately puzzled as to where you think I posted this comment about you. I post songs on two other sites occassionally, and said the same thing on both of them about what I infer to be your earlier comments on the song. What I said was: "..... maybe he thought it was, like, male-bashing or female-macho or something, who knows; it's just meant to be funny." So I would truly like to hear from you as to where you believe you saw me say anything about your hating women or even vaguely implied that I think you're a sociopath. And I also don't know what this "get even" comment is all about - I'm in a lot of different songwriting, publishing, and performing venues; they all have their different cultures, nuances, characters, etc.; you're not liking my stuff and being negative on this particular site doesn't ruffle me esp. Anyway, drop me an email, I'd genuinely like to know what the heck you're talking about - sharon@rsg-services.com
Jack - no contact from the person - not surprising; seems like the type who just wants to anonymously fire off whatever flaky accusations come into his head, w/o ever taking responsibilty for having misrepresented the truth (i.e., LIED).
CA- dude, I thought his original "story" was a little psycho (I'm assuming it was the same guy who then accused me of calling him a woman-hater, sociopath, etc., on another site, which I never even so much as intimated and which sounds symptomatic of paranoia) - I mean, he sounded, like, *angry* which I find a bizarre response to a song .... and in his most recent input (again, I think I'm right in assuming it's the same person): "I politely asked my wife to leave the room while your song was playing. To PROTECCT HER FROM IT" [sic]. DANG - to think that what I considered a playful little tongue-in-cheek ditty could inspire fear and loathing of that magnitude, such that he banished his wife from the room! Why, I'm in awe of my powers! Seriously, this person is the vicitm of a seriously twisted mind....
I've said before that all the truly gifted ones are just a little crazy, but craziness is no gift.
I thought that review was funny. Maybe it was meant to be funny, maybe there is some anger there, whatever it is, it amused me, as did your song. I thought I wrote long reviews!
Anyway, I'm not sure I would have been amused if he wrote it about one of my songs, but I'd like to think my songs are put on a little better than that one. I'm assuming most of yours are too? Please say yes?
Ya know, CA, I *might've* been inclined to go along with your interpretation, that his first "story" was perhaps intended to be funny - were it not for the fact that he took it upon himself to COME BACK with a follow-up comment after he got the deluded notion in his head that I had called him a woman-hating sociopath on another site. Now, c'mon - what kind of person goes to that kind of trouble except someone truly bent toward the vicious & whacked? (Sidebar - the main reason I started this thread was, on the off-chance he did contact me, I wanted to direct him back to the exact words I put on those sites - which are still there and state simply that maybe he had thought the song was female-macho male bashing, drawing no inferences whatever about his increasingly-obvious personality disorders or disposition toward women).
As to your saying that "the truly gifted ones are just a little crazy" - I'm curious as to how you know he is "truly gifted." If you know what name he posts songs under, I'd be very interested in listening to his stuff - my email is in original post. And I have none of the "get even" mentality he refers to in his second set of remarks (yet further evidence of his twisted take on things), so I'm not looking for his stuff so I can slam him back; I don't play those games. I try to give comments consistent with the purported spirit of this site: 1. that the production is not important, what is important is the lyrics (stated in the site FAQs) and 2. that reviewers should give feedback on what is good and bad (stated where the reviewer's comments are input). Coincidentally, I post songs in the same spirit and am not sure what your definition of "put on a little better" is - but would be very interested to hear your stuff; drop me an email and tell me who to look up.
Hi Sharon- 1. I thought that whoever wrote that comment showed some talent. As I said, it was at least as good, in my opinion, as "Finish What you Started." Therefore my crazy/talented reference makes perfect contextual sense.
2. I don't expect that you will go along with my interpretation. You may ignore it at your own discretion. I post here a lot. Sometimes I stick my nose where it does not belong. You be the judge.
3. Your song was posted 5/31 right? And you listened to and rated how many songs between then and now? Like five? Are you always like this? Have you even given as many reviews as you've received?
I'm glad you are here and I hope you'll post some reviews and new songs soon.
hmmmmmmmm..........I think I've unintentionally touched some kind of nerve, though not sure how. Me mad? Nah..........Preaching? Didn't think so; not meant as such.........but then, things sometimes convey askew and not as meant on these boards. Hell, I thought we were having a decent dialog, wow, didn't know you folks on this site were so TOUCHY. By the way, I appreciated your feedback on my recent song - and the fact that you ID yourself. I try to remember to as well, but often forget. My measly few comments on songs - I just decided to try this site again, it was VERY strange back in June, thought it might be better now. As soon as I sent a song again after a couple of months, I started listening and reviewing as well, seems fair............
"Are you always like this?" Ahhhh, like what.......? I truly don't mean to sound dense, I just don't have any idea what you think I'm "like"......
"Have you even given as many reviews as you've received?" Well, upon my return here, I have left more comments than I've received on CM. Prior to that, after posting the first two songs in May, I did review a lot of songs, yeh, probably left at least as many comments as I got - substantive ones, at that......I'm no slouch on posting reviews.
Hi, Jeff - Hope you are doing well. I know from other posts you are struggling with health issues and my prayers go out to you.
Thanks for your note - although it mostly serves to further convince me that I am forever destined to be misinterpretted here. Will address your Q's, a little strange to me though some of them are, as best I can.
What is it you want from AW ? Can't fully answer that til I get a better take on what this site is really about. Now, I have read its promo stuff about what it purports to be about, but so far am still looking for hard evidence. So basically am still testing the waters - would be unfair to make assertions about what I want if it is not on the menu here.
Can you tell me ? Redundant question, presumably rhetorical and intended for effect, in light of the first question.
Do you know ? From *this* site, as per 1st response, not fully at this time. I certainly know why I visit music posting sites - but that will take a fuller discourse than time allows at this moment - which I will get around to, just to keep things stirred up.
I didn't do it and niether did jack, but girl - come on- get real hmmmm...okey dokey then......did not occur to me that you or Jack did....and does not *seem* to me that I made any comment indicative of so thinking .....can you point out to me what I said that prompted you to say this? I have only posted what I consider very real statements, and nothing that I know of that should inspire a defensive posture (unsolicited denial generally = defensive posture).
I didn't find any negative comments about you here at AW.( although - I'm about to make one.) I copied verbatim (in my original post) some remarks on a song of mine, that have generated this surprisingly lively discussion. Now, whether interpretted as negative or not, they are among the strangest comments I have ever seen - not just received, but seen -- and wanted to directly correspond with the reviewer. So if you want to make negative comments about me for instigating this discussion, that is up to you; but I am curious as to what I said, specifically, that has inspired you to do so. I've responded honestly to those who who've responded to me, as I am doing here, and honestly did not intend to offend anyone.
What's Up with that ? Huh? Utterly obscure in meaning... can you better phrase what you want to know?
Grow a skin! What did I say that indicated hyper-sensitivity? Again, I don't see it in what I've said.....
Easy Girl - We are all on your side at AW. Did not intend to come across as not at ease and not sure what you see in my remarks that makes you think I am uneasy
So tell us the trueth, what is bothering you really ? As in the answer just above, did not intend to come across as bothered and not sure what you see etc. .....
Cause it can't really be us!!!!!! Hey, you're all fine in my book - I like a good verbal interchange .... though several of your questions here desparately need clearer articulation. I'm becoming repetitive, but again, I just don't know what I said that sounds accusatory or critical or overly sensitive about anything or anyone here. Like all forums, all participation is voluntary - people resonded to me, I responded to them - presumably, we all made honest, thoughtful comments..... I know I did ... don't know what else to tell you, Jeff.
If you want to be misinterpreted, you're in the right place! Welcome, but don't sit there. I must go make music now. Forums are only part of the fun here. Stop obsessing on months old BS and let's hear something new!
Thanks for your note - although it mostly serves to further convince me that I am forever destined to be misinterpretted here. Will address your Q's, a little strange to me though some of them are, as best I can.
Jeffrey Writes now - Sharon O. What is so strange about my first question, I didn't open this dialoge to make you an outsider. I've been an outsider, I just asked you to bring me up speed. I ask you again - what was wrong with my question?
What is it you want from AW ? Can't fully answer that til I get a better take on what this site is really about. Now, I have read its promo stuff about what it purports to be about, but so far am still looking for hard evidence. So basically am still testing the waters - would be unfair to make assertions about what I want if it is not on the menu here.
Jeffrey Say's ( What is it you want from AW ? - Good Question ! )
And you can't answer till you understand the menu.
Let me tell you something - Know what - Never Mind - you don't belong or need to be here.
If it isn't on the menu- don't try to order it !
Can you tell me ? Redundant question, presumably rhetorical and intended for effect, in light of the first question.
Jeffrey says - this is not redundant, Since you never really answered the first question as honestly as I asked it.
Do you know ? From *this* site, as per 1st response, not fully at this time. I certainly know why I visit music posting sites - but that will take a fuller discourse than time allows at this moment - which I will get around to, just to keep things stirred up.
Jeffrey Says ; I think you don't know how to answer my Honest questions. I do believe you have unresolved issues That have nothing to do with us at AW.
I didn't do it and niether did jack, but girl - come on- get real hmmmm...okey dokey then......did not occur to me that you or Jack did....and does not *seem* to me that I made any comment indicative of so thinking .....can you point out to me what I said that prompted you to say this? I have only posted what I consider very real statements, and nothing that I know of that should inspire a defensive posture (unsolicited denial generally = defensive posture).
Jeffrey says : You Said, " Just Proves To Me I am Destined To Be Forever Misinperpreted !
When all I intended was to be your friend and asked you how to make it better for you.
When all I saw was you being welcomed with open arms.
I didn't find any negative comments about you here at AW.( although - I'm about to make one.) I copied verbatim (in my original post) some remarks on a song of mine, that have generated this surprisingly lively discussion. Now, whether interpretted as negative or not, they are among the strangest comments I have ever seen - not just received, but seen -- and wanted to directly correspond with the reviewer. So if you want to make negative comments about me for instigating this discussion, that is up to you; but I am curious as to what I said, specifically, that has inspired you to do so. I've responded honestly to those who who've responded to me, as I am doing here, and honestly did not intend to offend anyone.
What's Up with that ? Huh? Utterly obscure in meaning... can you better phrase what you want to know?
Grow a skin! What did I say that indicated hyper-sensitivity? Again, I don't see it in what I've said.....
Easy Girl - We are all on your side at AW. Did not intend to come across as not at ease and not sure what you see in my remarks that makes you think I am uneasy
So tell us the trueth, what is bothering you really ? As in the answer just above, did not intend to come across as bothered and not sure what you see etc. .....
Cause it can't really be us!!!!!! Hey, you're all fine in my book - I like a good verbal interchange .... though several of your questions here desparately need clearer articulation. I'm becoming repetitive, but again, I just don't know what I said that sounds accusatory or critical or overly sensitive about anything or anyone here. Like all forums, all participation is voluntary - people resonded to me, I responded to them - presumably, we all made honest, thoughtful comments..... I know I did ... don't know what else to tell you, Jeff.
Jeff - wow, I keep wondering what I'm saying that seems to piss people off here....at least, your message sounds pissed off.
Jeffrey Writes now - Sharon O. What is so strange about my first question
Sharon says: Your first question is indeed quite reasonable and not strange at all (it was mostly your questions later down the list that I found strange, as I noted in my responses) - it just required more time for oberving and considering than I had done at the time. I'm going to start a thread under an appropriate title that will address it, now that I've read and listened to more of the material here.
Let me tell you something - Know what - Never Mind - you don't belong or need to be here.
Like I said, I keep wondering what I'm saying that seems to piss people off here....
When all I intended was to be your friend ....
Um, how many people ya got living there inside that head, Jeff? You're sounding a little schizo....
I do believe you have unresolved issues
Then I am definitely in the right place!!! This has got to be the Unresolved Issues Capital of the WorldWideWeb!!!
I saw a thing a few months ago where the one guy wouldn't give an inch to the other guy and it just went on and on until one of them walked away with hurtful feelings and I just stood there asking more questions.
It doesn't end pretty...fact is, there is no end. Let me be a lesson to ya both.